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The British writer spoke with Eleanor Wachtel near amplifying the voices of marginalized people through literature.

Bernardine Evaristo is a British writer who has written viii books. (Jennie Scott)

This interview was originally broadcast on Jan. 19, 2020.

When Bernardine Evaristo won the Booker Prize in October 2019 for her novel Girl, Woman, Other, she was the first Black British winner in the Booker's more than l-year history. In a surprising move by the jury, the prize was shared with Margaret Atwood, marking the first split decision since 1992 — when Michael Ondaatje and Barry Unsworth were both honoured.

Girl, Adult female, Other has garnered international acclaim for its ambitious storytelling. The novel follows the interconnected lives of 12 Black British women, from ages 19 to 93, going back more than than a century. Playwright Tom Stoppard named it his favourite novel of the year, for "changing [his] thinking."

Built-in in London to an English mother and Nigerian father, Evaristo focuses on characters in the margins of mainstream history. Her previous books include Mr. Loverman, The Emperor's Infant and Lara, her semi-autobiographical novel-in-verse.

She spoke to Eleanor Wachtel from London.

Unapologetically Amma

"The grapheme, Amma, in Daughter, Adult female, Other, is a adult female in her belatedly 50s, mayhap early 60s. She's been in theatre for 40 years as a theatre director and a theatre maker. She ran her ain theatre visitor called Bush Women Theatre for many years.

"She's always been somebody who would be considered working on the fringe — creating culling theatre not occupying the main theatre spaces in the country. She has some degree of resentment about that. She'due south as well somebody who has stuck to her principles and created the kinds of theatre that she wants to encounter from a Black adult female's perspective.

"Amma is an interesting character. She is somebody who is loosely based on my younger self when I was coming of historic period in the 1980s. I was also a theatre maker; I co-founded Uk's first Blackness women's theatre company. We were out there putting on our own plays because nobody was going to employ us anyway.

"Amma is somebody who had a similar sort of outset in her career to me, only stayed a marginalized figure."

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Woman warriors

"I grew up in the U.One thousand. in the 1960s and 1970s. We had a very white education system. The history that we were taught was white British history. I had no sense, every bit the daughter of a Nigerian father and a white English mother, of African history. I didn't know it fifty-fifty existed. We weren't taught information technology.

I had no sense, every bit the girl of a Nigerian father and a white English mother, of African history. I didn't know it even existed. - Bernardine Evaristo

"My father didn't really know information technology himself, to be honest. There were no books almost African warriors, African queens or African kingdoms. In the 1980s, when I became really politicized —  and I started to dig deep and research into Black history and African history — it was a revelation to notice that this continent, that had been invisible in the British imagination in terms of its education organization, was such a rich and varied place.

"To observe that there had also been powerful women equally function of some of these African societies was absolutely heed bravado. When I decided that Amma was going to accept a play premiere at the National Theatre, I thought that the field of study matter that I could give her would exist the theme of women warriors. In a way, she is a adult female warrior herself —  she's somebody who has fought to pb a creative life, on her ain terms, for so many years."

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Mixed-race and marginalized

"I grew up with a male parent who was quite patriarchal in the way he raised his children. He was a very strict disciplinarian. I'm not being critical of him considering I understand fully at present — coming from a family of viii children, mixed-race Blackness children, growing up in the 1970s — that he had to be disciplinarian in order to protect us and keep us on the straight and narrow path. Just it felt quite oppressive. He was quite punitive toward usa and he didn't really know how to relate to united states.

The writers who struck a chord with me were African-American women writers; they were almost the only ones publishing anywhere in the world. - Bernardine Everisto

"When I went to drama school, which is now-called the Rose Bruford Higher of Theatre & Performance, I encountered other Black women for the offset time. Nosotros got together and became very politicized equally a group because we could relate to all kinds of things about our backgrounds and our position in society that simply nosotros understood.

"That was a rich and exciting space to be in as a immature adult female of nineteen, who is get-go to understand that she's grown upwardly in a society where she has been marginalized although she hasn't been able to clear that.

"At the same time, I was beingness introduced to feminist literature, feminist poetry. The writers who struck a chord with me were African-American women writers; in the early 1980s, there was not a body of Black British women's writing. So we looked to the American writers who were being published in the U.K. —  Alice Walker, Gloria Naylor, Maya Angelou and Toni Morrison."

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The emergence of Blackness British literature

"Equally a British citizen of African beginnings, we are a minority in this land of 60 million people. I think there are less than two million of united states — and even less of u.s. who are born and raised in this country.

"I am a woman of 60. I have lived here all my life. For all of my adult life I have witnessed how culturally — and to a sure extent politically — certainly African American culture has predominated and has been revered in a way that sort of British-built-in civilisation isn't.

"I'm not saying in that location isn't a reason for that, peculiarly when you lot think about America and American history, the 400 years of connected presence of African Americans and the way in which that social club has evolved. It's very different to the U.k..

"While we have this very deep history going back to the Romans, it'south been a history where no single person can trace their lineage back, in terms of the African ancestry, to beyond the late 19th century. African American culture is embedded, deep and a very rich civilization.

British publishers were not interested in publishing Black British writers — and that only began to change in the late-1990s. - Bernardine Evaristo

"But it has meant that it has pushed aside the evolution of Black British culture to a certain extent. That was definitely the example in the 1980s when all these astonishing African American women writers were published and the publishing industry was very excited by them.

"But they had, of form, accomplished success in America before coming here. British publishers were not interested in publishing Black British writers — and that just began to change in the tardily-1990s. We're even so not in that location nevertheless."

Bernardine Evaristo'due south comments accept been edited for length and clarity.

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Source: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/writersandcompany/bernardine-evaristo-on-black-british-identity-and-her-booker-winning-novel-girl-woman-other-1.5430954

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